Dec 02, 2011, 06:21 AM // 06:21
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2011
Profession: R/A
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need help selecting a secondary for a survivor war
im trying to make a warrior and get him his survivor title but i dont know what secondary to chose and i dont have any builds in mind. Anyone mind helpin me out?
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Dec 02, 2011, 06:53 AM // 06:53
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#2
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Ascalonian Squire
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Which compaing are you trying to do the title?
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Dec 02, 2011, 06:58 AM // 06:58
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2011
Profession: R/A
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Nightfall, but at level 10 im switching to EoTN to powerlevel to 20
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Dec 02, 2011, 07:10 AM // 07:10
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#4
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenithos
Nightfall, but at level 10 im switching to EoTN to powerlevel to 20
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Ic, you might want to try w/n or w/mo, maybe even w/r. I am still a noob but been reading a lot.
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Dec 02, 2011, 07:14 AM // 07:14
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2011
Profession: R/A
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i was considering the war/mo and the reason why im askin around is cause all ive ever really played is my necromancer and ranger
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Dec 02, 2011, 07:23 AM // 07:23
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Italy, Turin
Guild: Lake
Profession: E/
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You shouldn't bother so much with Survivor title, because the conditions to max it has changed (just gaining "X" exp w/o die), and you don't have to do it as first title anymore(which is what you're doing if you're chosing 2nd prof i guess).
So just pick a prof that let you play war at his best, then when you'll have time and will focus on survivor: farming (W/A + bonder at vaettir can max in some hours, there's a thread somewhere on guru) kilroy boxing or Kathandrax Hammers (if you have a crapload of money) are the most popular ways to do it.
On topic "Which prof for your warrior?" i'd say Ranger, Assassin(but you're in elona atm), Paragon. Avoid caster profs, and the new dervish with all that enchants tossing and removing makes it a bad 2nd prof for the war (with 20 ene max), almost useless apart a couple of not so great scythe attacks.
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Dec 02, 2011, 07:44 AM // 07:44
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#7
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2011
Profession: R/A
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i need some w/r and some war/para builds then -.-
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Dec 02, 2011, 08:10 AM // 08:10
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#8
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Frost Gate Guardian
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It doesn't matter which secondary you pick as a Warrior 99% of the time since outside of niche builds taking non-warrior skills are generally bad. You don't need heals, you don't need blocking or any other stuff a secondary can offer. As a Warrior you should focus on one thing: hitting stuff until it dies.
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Dec 02, 2011, 10:03 AM // 10:03
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Italy, Turin
Guild: Lake
Profession: E/
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^Exactely.
Mentioned Sin and Para because the first let you use dagger spam (Warrior endurance) and the second can sinergy a bit with adren gain and such (enudring armony + FGJ is pretty common in Dslash build). That's all.
Both those options are quite hard to realize in first level of the game tho(WE is a elite hard to cap, Dslash is used to fuel pve skills like Brawling headbutt/SY!), so don't bother so much with those: just pick a 2nd prof so you can advance in storyline, using optimized build with skills you wont' get really soon will come later.
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Dec 02, 2011, 10:21 AM // 10:21
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#10
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: England
Guild: The Ministery Of Cookies (MC)
Profession: W/Mo
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Warrior dervish with 2 skills from wind prayers coupled with a Dragon Slash build will see you through any campaign with hero's. As for posting builds don't be lazy read threads there's tons about the warrior class.........
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Dec 02, 2011, 02:34 PM // 14:34
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: America -5 GMT
Profession: Me/
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I did W/A with 2 bonders and did a Vaettir farm. Runs are like 3 mins for just the north group so it isn't too bad.
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Dec 02, 2011, 04:27 PM // 16:27
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Denizen of Tyria since Feb. 2009
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Well, to actually answer your question, I did a Legendary Survivor warrior before the change by playing the game -- no farms. That meant I had to use a build that ensured my survival (which I'm assuming is what you're after). In my opinion, the best way to go about this on any profession (which I have done) is to go ranged. Unless you're going to micro the hell out of protection monks (which I really didn't want to be bothered doing), things can go real wrong real fast in melee.
My warrior started in Prophecies, so I had to run W/R in the beginning. I didn't like it because the energy-based bow skills don't really synergize with a warrior and its pitiful energy.
As soon as I ascended and could switch, I went W/P. You're lucky that you're starting in Nightfall and can pick Paragon secondary right away. I would personally suggest it. Most of the spear skills are adrenaline-based, which is a pretty natural fit for a warrior.
Because I absolutely did not want to have to remake my warrior (it had a birthday I didn't want to change), I went super-careful with a build based around Defy Pain [E]. Some spear attacks, an adrenaline booster ("For Great Justice!" and Spear of Fury), an IAS. Whatever lets you play from a distance while the minions soak up the hate and the caster heroes lay most of the smackdown.
All that said, if you're only interested in getting from 1-10 on newbie isle, what others have said is true: It doesn't really matter what you run as long as you play somewhat smart.
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Dec 02, 2011, 09:25 PM // 21:25
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#13
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2009
Guild: FILA
Profession: P/
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It'll probably just be best if you don't worry about your secondary. Typically most builds don't need a secondary unless it's for a specific farm, mission, or gimmick.
The only advice I have for someone trying to make survivor, with any profession, is to not PuG until you finish. I love playing with other people, but you can sacrifice your heroes to give you time to map out before dying; you can't do that to other people and they can make mistakes.
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Dec 02, 2011, 10:56 PM // 22:56
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#14
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: WI
Guild: Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenithos
Nightfall, but at level 10 im switching to EoTN to powerlevel to 20
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Are you powerleveling doing Kilroy runs? You might as well go W/A then to take advantage of some Thunderfists. You can also get Survivor if you just keep doing this using scrolls. Otherwise as someone else said you can do Vaettir runs.
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Dec 03, 2011, 11:14 AM // 11:14
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#15
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2008
Guild: [DVDF]
Profession: P/
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I'd go for Wa/Pa, and use a Spear as your weapon. Strength and Flail make Warriors better spear throwers by far than any Paragon could ever hope to be, and using the Spear will position you on the midline.
Having Warrior-level armour and not being on the frontlines should make your death extremely unlikely in any competant team build. But just to be sure, considering pringing a panic button like Endure Pain if the going gets tough, and a run skill to flee if neccessary. You should still have reasonable single-target damage and if you bring Stunning Spear, you'll still be handy to any team as caster shut-down vs. some of the nastier bosses.
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Jan 15, 2012, 12:37 AM // 00:37
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: W/
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Hmm..
Prophecies is your best bet for a survivor tittle.. easily done and predictable.
However nightfall gives you a much more realistic skill use template. So travel to different
My mentor MedicineArrow. Toppled a Droks run with W/R Solo but he's a professional and knows his timing. But I know it works. I saw him do it.
I use W/Mo (Adrenaline Spam/Safety regen net with retreat option.)
(I MUST stress to you the importance of Armor mods full Sentinal runes and Furious blade. Turn 50 elemental dmg to 0-6..
Get the most out of your adrenaline moves quick fast and in a hurry.)
Healing Breeze, Vigorous spirit,Defy Pain, Lions comfort, Flail, Standing slash, Silverwing Slash, a res of somesort for anti party wipe or replace silverwing with gash and res area with a bleed for solo variation or riposete.. deadly rip.. whatever your taste axe rupter. hammer.. dagger.. whatever...
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W/P (ranged attacker/Minimal Regen net.)
I used this to solo Ascention protocal and kill Glint without fail also works for more intelligent cast and run when hurt Pve monster types who slow or cripple you. The other build works but when you get to glint she will shred you.. as you are too close for comfort..
People say warriors make poor casters.. I say they make great casters if you off balance the En cost with adrenaline moves. Carry a weapon slot with a rod and a wand. just for that and switch up.. Cripple + Glyph of instacasting and Meteor shower gets them every time with +1 second knockdown rune. People say this feat is impressive in the GW world of hack and slashers and can buy you time to act and dispose of an entire squad PVE.. Especially past torment areas in Nightfall.
I hope some of this has assisted your search for a decent warrior.
In Game Im also Stormscape_Paladin and I dont mind aiding you in your ventures.
Last edited by Rage_Knight; Jan 15, 2012 at 12:59 AM // 00:59..
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